Too Many Pillows and Not Enough Swear Words
This week on Sweet Blondes – Julie’s naughty, Esther’s proper, Penny’s disobedient – we’re back with more cheeky confessions and strong opinions.
What do we secretly dislike that everyone else pretends to love? Which everyday things are totally overrated? And yes, Penny reveals her favourite swear word – can you guess what it is?
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Right, okay.
Speaker A:This is a controversial one.
Speaker A:Esther.
Speaker A:Text, call or voice note?
Speaker B:Text.
Speaker B:But if it's really important.
Speaker B:Call.
Speaker B:No missing tone.
Speaker B:No, I don't do voice notes.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:I'm going to get into them.
Speaker B:But no, but if people.
Speaker B:You need people to understand what you're saying.
Speaker B:It's got to be.
Speaker B:The call said there's no misinterpretation.
Speaker A:Fair enough.
Speaker A:Julie, what do you think?
Speaker C:Text.
Speaker C:But I'm using voice notes more.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And I've got to say, I am a bit guilty of voice noting just because of time, but I do go on a bit and I don't like people who go on.
Speaker A:On theirs as well.
Speaker B:So basically you don't want to type it out.
Speaker B:It is quicker.
Speaker B:But you're right, there's nothing worse than, oh, I only meant to say this.
Speaker B:And now I've given you my life story.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And you look at somebody's voice now and it says, two and a half minutes.
Speaker B:I haven't got the time.
Speaker C:Haven't got the time.
Speaker C:Just text me.
Speaker A:You know, annoyingly, my car won't play my voice notes, so I can't record them.
Speaker A:Nor can I listen to other people while she's driving.
Speaker B:No, no, this is her excuse.
Speaker B:You know, your one that you said.
Speaker B:So there was two and a half minutes.
Speaker B:Let's play in the car.
Speaker C:That's right.
Speaker A:Oh, it was the car's fault.
Speaker A:Right, so.
Speaker A:So I think we've got a mixed bag there, haven't we?
Speaker A:Now, this is a good one, Julie, I'm going to come straight to you with this because I feel like you've got something in the barrel.
Speaker A:What is something you secretly can't stand but everybody else loves?
Speaker C:I've got a bit of a list, but I'll just pick one today.
Speaker C:Aperol spritz.
Speaker C:Oh, you go to those parties or you go to a bar and everyone's going, yeah, let's have an apple spritz.
Speaker C:The sun is shining.
Speaker C:We're out in the bear garden.
Speaker C:Lovely.
Speaker C:Tastes like rocket fuel.
Speaker C:Awful.
Speaker C:Or petrol.
Speaker C:Or.
Speaker C:I just don't like it.
Speaker C:I don't see the attraction.
Speaker C:And yeah, it's like an in drink, isn't it?
Speaker C:It's like the summer drink.
Speaker C:No, not for me.
Speaker A:I'm with you on that.
Speaker C:Are you?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It looks very appealing.
Speaker C:It does.
Speaker B:But looks can be deceiving in all manner of things.
Speaker B:Looks can be deceiving.
Speaker C:So that's mine.
Speaker A:One of mine.
Speaker A:That's yours.
Speaker A:Okay, we might have to revisit this list.
Speaker A:In other.
Speaker C:I think we Should.
Speaker A:Esther, where are you at on this?
Speaker B:Well, I've got a couple, but I think if it's secretly and everybody else loves, then mine has to be pillows.
Speaker B:Can't bear pillows.
Speaker B:I sleep flat.
Speaker B:Nobody really knows that.
Speaker B:Hence, it's secret.
Speaker B:Unless you sleep with me and neither of you do.
Speaker C:My app rules for it.
Speaker C:No, we don't.
Speaker B:So pillows.
Speaker B:I think I sleep like a little baby.
Speaker B:I'm either on my front, on my face, flat, or I'm literally flat on my back like a baby.
Speaker B:Yes, yes.
Speaker B:No pillow whatsoever.
Speaker B:Absolutely flat on the mattress.
Speaker A:Not even those horrible uniform ones that are not comfortable?
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker B:And I. I don't know if I learned to do it because for a while I used to always be asleep in a way, you know, with work sleeping away and there's nothing worse than a bad pillow.
Speaker B:So I don't know if I developed it that way, but I've always slept like a baby on my.
Speaker B:My front with no pillow.
Speaker C:Thanks for sharing.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And the only reason.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And the only reason I went from sleeping on my front like a baby used to wake up in the morning, your face was all squashed, you know, and I thought, oh, my God.
Speaker B:Going to help with wrinkles as I get older.
Speaker B:So then I thought I better sleep on my back flat, you know, to.
Speaker B:To iron out the face rather than scrunch up the face and look like a pug when you wake up.
Speaker A:I was thinking there, Esther, with the sleep on the face bit, that's.
Speaker C:It's not a good solution.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker B:Well, as I said, the pug in the morning is not a good look right now.
Speaker A:I've just come up with one.
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker A:I've just.
Speaker A:This drives me mad.
Speaker A:Chopping boards.
Speaker A:Food being served on a chopping board.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker A:It sets me teeth on edge.
Speaker B:Is it dirt?
Speaker B:Is that hygiene?
Speaker A:It's a hygiene thing.
Speaker A:I don't wanna.
Speaker A:I don't wanna put a knife on it.
Speaker A:I don't mind if you're gonna bring me some bread.
Speaker A:I mean, I'd rather you didn't.
Speaker A:So if you're using it as a serving platter is acceptable.
Speaker A:I regularly say.
Speaker C:I think I've been there when you've done that, actually.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:I think you have given you a weird look.
Speaker C:Like what?
Speaker B:Out.
Speaker B:Because there's quite a few of these that are brought.
Speaker B:I agree with you, by the way, because if it's got butter on or food on or dirty, whatever.
Speaker B:No, that's why I said hygiene straight away.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:What about those slate things?
Speaker B:I mean, what's the point.
Speaker B:I mean, they can fall off.
Speaker B:They're not really serve a purpose.
Speaker B:They grate with the knife.
Speaker B:I don't get.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'm not a fan of those.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker C:And where's the slate come from?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Off the roof.
Speaker C:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker C:Oh, look, that's.
Speaker C:That'll do as a plate.
Speaker A:Is it dishwasher friendly?
Speaker B:There's too many high winds you've got.
Speaker C:Can we just not have it on a plate, please?
Speaker A:I always say to them, just a lovely, beautiful, clean white plate.
Speaker A:There's nothing more beautiful, is there, for food?
Speaker C:I think it got a bit daft, didn't it?
Speaker C:People thought there was all these different things that you could like, show your food on display, your food and it doesn't taste any different.
Speaker B:And those weird times, you know, you get a really steep, bizarre bowl shape thing that comes with your starter in and you can't eat it because you can't get your knives and forks in there too.
Speaker B:So I think.
Speaker B:Well, that was a mistake, wasn't it?
Speaker B:That was a bad design.
Speaker B:So don't think you're fancy pants or you're being really sophisticated.
Speaker B:It was a bad design.
Speaker B:We don't like it.
Speaker A:We don't like it.
Speaker A:And you knew I blamed for the wood.
Speaker B:Who?
Speaker A:Jamie Oliver.
Speaker C:Are you?
Speaker B:I. I'm not.
Speaker B:I've never been a huge fan of Jamie Oliver's, but that wouldn't be.
Speaker C:Do you think he introduced them?
Speaker A:Yeah, he was getting drippy.
Speaker B:I'm gonna ask you a question.
Speaker B:I'm gonna ask you this question.
Speaker B:Is his tongue too big for his mouth?
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Where's this going?
Speaker B:It totally is.
Speaker B:It totally is.
Speaker C:Okay, you go back to sleeping with no pillows.
Speaker A:His tongue is too big for his mouth.
Speaker B:Oh, right.
Speaker C:I need to.
Speaker C:I need to.
Speaker C:I need speaks.
Speaker B:And he's giving you a recipe.
Speaker C:You just feels as though it's right or sounds as though it's too right.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I'm thinking spittle is what I'm thinking.
Speaker B:Which again, is not attractive.
Speaker C:All over those wooden platters.
Speaker C:There you go.
Speaker C:There's a reason.
Speaker B:Just saying.
Speaker B:Just saying.
Speaker C:Set fire to your wooden scissors.
Speaker A:Right, well, that concludes our quick fire round.
Speaker B:Wasn't that quick?
Speaker A:Wasn't that quick.
Speaker C:I was just gonna say that.
Speaker B:It was like you're one thing that you don't like and we all had millions.
Speaker B:I nearly.
Speaker B:I nearly got round to anchovies on salad nissoise.
Speaker B:What are the point of anchovies?
Speaker B:But then that wasn't secret.
Speaker B:I'm quite vocal about no anchovies no anchovies on salad.
Speaker B:Also want to know who did love it.
Speaker B:Cuz then it couldn't be like other people loving it.
Speaker B:Nobody likes anchovies on.
Speaker C:I don't know anyone that likes those.
Speaker C:No awful things.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Set your teeth on it.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, and the slit.
Speaker A:That's horrible.
Speaker A:Okay, so we will.
Speaker C:You've actually snorted.
Speaker B:I totally snorted.
Speaker B:I'd hoped you'd missed that or you'd edit it out.
Speaker B:I did a little snort.
Speaker B:I did a little Percy the Pig snort, but that's because I was laughing and trying not to laugh and it came out the wrong way.
Speaker A:Swearing.
Speaker C:What the beep.
Speaker C:Are you gonna use the beep machine to do that today?
Speaker A:Actually, I will because I've got it on the Edison software and it'll be funny, I think.
Speaker C:Thank fuck for that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:She's only kidding.
Speaker B:You're gonna go out saying the big F word.
Speaker B:All your friends and your family will be embarrassed.
Speaker B:They'll say she's brought a credibility right down.
Speaker C:Potty mouth bitch.
Speaker B:What do they say?
Speaker B:You don't kiss your mother with that mouth.
Speaker A:That's one of my favourite things to do is swearing that.
Speaker A:And actually it's gone out on a podcast.
Speaker A:So we can swear.
Speaker C:Can we?
Speaker C:Brilliant.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Let's keep it real.
Speaker B:But there was definitely something growing up.
Speaker C:I like that she's telling us something.
Speaker C:When she tells us something, that's like.
Speaker C:There was something.
Speaker C:I'm like, yeah, I'm intrigued now.
Speaker B:I'm intrigued.
Speaker C:You've got me in.
Speaker C:You've got me in.
Speaker C:Tell us more.
Speaker B:But it's definitely, as you were growing up, a class thing, wasn't it?
Speaker B:It was like, don't embarrass me.
Speaker B:This isn't what you are.
Speaker B:You're aspirational.
Speaker B:You don't swear.
Speaker B:That's very revealing.
Speaker B:And what was the thing your parents always said?
Speaker B:It's because you can't think of an adjective.
Speaker B:It's because, you know, you're not intellectual or whatever it was.
Speaker B:So you'll swear.
Speaker B:So there was definitely that, wasn't there?
Speaker B:Definitely a class.
Speaker A:I would say it showed a lack of vocabulary.
Speaker A:That was always the thing from adults, wasn't it?
Speaker C:Yeah, it was.
Speaker C:And it's funny.
Speaker C:I had a conversation with Dean this morning about swearing.
Speaker C:Like, kids swear nowadays, don't they?
Speaker C:You know?
Speaker C:But it's because they hear it.
Speaker C:We didn't hear it.
Speaker C:And me, my mum and dad, if they had a row, their worst word was probably bloody.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And cow.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:There wasn't really anything else that we ever heard.
Speaker C:And it's not until you go to school and then you're opened up to new words.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Not always good words.
Speaker C:But we didn't hear it at home.
Speaker B:Yeah, it did become acceptable.
Speaker C:And you weren't allowed to say bloody.
Speaker B:Yeah, no I do.
Speaker B:During the 80s, without doubt, when that sort of modern stand up comedian came around, all of a sudden there seemed to be a lot more swearing and it was part of the comedy.
Speaker B:If there wasn't a punchline, they'd throw in a swear word because it sort of doubled up as that.
Speaker B:So there's definitely been a sort of a transition, mind you.
Speaker B:Well, I always love saying stop effing and jeffing.
Speaker B:I don't know that classic, wasn't it?
Speaker B:Stop effing and jeffing.
Speaker A:That was what I was gonna ask him.
Speaker A:Do you have.
Speaker A:I was gonna say a surrogate word that you use instead of swearing that is equally.
Speaker A:Makes its own point.
Speaker A:So like effing and jeffy.
Speaker A:It makes its own point that sugar.
Speaker B:Used to be used.
Speaker B:Sugar, sugar, sugar.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:But I tell you what I used.
Speaker C:It's so ridiculous.
Speaker C:Oh, sugar.
Speaker C:Something's just landed on my foot.
Speaker C:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:But you've broken a thought.
Speaker B:Do you sometimes do it to shock though?
Speaker B:You sometimes deliberately do it.
Speaker B:It's not like you've sworn because you couldn't control yourself.
Speaker B:You've done it because you don't really like the company you're in and you want to alienate.
Speaker B:Slash shock.
Speaker A:Just saying how interesting.
Speaker A:Well, to that point, my favorite swear word is oh my God.
Speaker B:I find that.
Speaker B:I find that hot.
Speaker B:I find that really quite harsh.
Speaker C:Well, here you go.
Speaker C:But if a cockney, if a cockney says it.
Speaker C:Not very good at this.
Speaker C:They gay.
Speaker C:Cant.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Doesn't sound that bad.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, because it's more C a.
Speaker C:N t us northerners and we say it gustral cunt.
Speaker B:Right, well, awful.
Speaker B:I'm gonna say something here.
Speaker B:I was in the Vagina Monologues.
Speaker B:I don't know if you remember the play the Lemonade.
Speaker C:I do.
Speaker B:And I was at the empire in Liverpool.
Speaker B:2,700 audience, right?
Speaker B:And there is a poem in that, the C u n t poem which I had to perform, right.
Speaker B:So I didn't realize my mum had said I'm gonna take it.
Speaker B:I'm gonna.
Speaker B:I won't tell you what night and I will book tickets to come wait for friends.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So it gets worse.
Speaker B:So all of a sudden I see this front row because she'd brought 50 and the only place you could get the 50 were the front row and they were all sitting down.
Speaker B:My babysitter when I was a child, my cousin, my former head teacher, and I thought, oh, my godmother, after the interval, I've gotta do the cunt poem.
Speaker C:Oh, no.
Speaker A:Oh, how did that feel?
Speaker B:Quite liberating.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Especially if your head teacher was there.
Speaker B:Yes, former head teacher.
Speaker C:Former head teacher, yeah.
Speaker B:Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:And what did my dad say?
Speaker B:My dad said.
Speaker B:What was the word he used afterwards?
Speaker B:He said, well, yes, that was adventurous.
Speaker C:Adventurous.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:So I think the consensus on swearing is, I'm a big fan.
Speaker C:I'm a fan.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think you've got to be, haven't you?
Speaker B:It's a form of relief, isn't it?
Speaker B:And release.
Speaker A:It's a painkiller, a natural painkiller.
Speaker C:And we use it.
Speaker C:It for you.
Speaker B:You do choose the environment that you do it.
Speaker B:So you're quite happy to do it with.
Speaker C:Most people do, yeah, I reckon.
Speaker C:Not everybody, but most people.
Speaker B:Well, I do.
Speaker B:I choose.
Speaker B:I. I choose.
Speaker A:I think it is bad manners to swear out of context around the wrong.
Speaker B:I'm going to ask you one thing, though, but would you say it sort of with elderly people around?
Speaker B:No, it's not.
Speaker B:You wouldn't.
Speaker B:Do you.
Speaker B:You wouldn't sort of see great grandparents, different generations, they didn't swear.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:I think you'd see them off if you came out with your potty mouth.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think at 100 birthday, your family.
Speaker C:Off and all the people that you've known forever when they came to see you.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker B:The Vagina Monologues.
Speaker B:Never again.
Speaker B:Don't do it.
Speaker C:Don't take your parents.
Speaker C:If you learn anything from today, don't do it.
Speaker B:Don't.
Speaker B:Don't take part.
Speaker A:Okay, next subject, which is one that's close to all of our hearts being women, is makeup.
Speaker B:Thank God for it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Wouldn't be seen dead without it.
Speaker A:So, I mean, we're sat in a quite a warm studio at the moment as well.
Speaker A:And you will notice that my eyeliner isn't smudging, and that's because I have my makeup tattooed on.
Speaker C:Well, that saves the job, but we'll.
Speaker A:Save that for another day.
Speaker A:Esther, you leapt to that microphone there.
Speaker A:Talk to me about makeup.
Speaker B:Essential, I'd say.
Speaker B:I think girls should be taught it in school as early as possible to make sure they do it right.
Speaker B:Do it right.
Speaker B:I have to say, I remember my mum always saying, I don't care if the house is burning down.
Speaker B:My lipstick will be on before I leave that front door.
Speaker B:So obviously I've done that.
Speaker B:And there was an element, you knew Sunday, you're being your Sunday best.
Speaker B:And there is an element of look after yourself, look the best you possibly can do your hair right, put makeup on and I enjoy putting it on and I can do it quite quickly now, but I feel better.
Speaker B:And is it a screen, is it a wall, is it a mask?
Speaker B:Maybe it is, but I feel better.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm not trying to attract a man or maybe I was, I don't know.
Speaker B:But I feel better.
Speaker C:Yeah, me too.
Speaker C:Apart from the days of when you were like 15 and you were orange.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:You know, and like you said, maybe we should teach girls how to do from an early age so we don't go through the orange tangoed look.
Speaker A:But Julie, in hindsight, look at all the YouTube videos.
Speaker A:In fact, my 12 year old, 13 year old stepdaughter can do her makeup better than me now.
Speaker C:Oh, they all have because they all buy the top products and stuff.
Speaker C:Oh yeah, I was, I was in boots with the shitty stuff.
Speaker B:Was it?
Speaker A:Yeah, you know, buying bright blue eyeshadow.
Speaker C:Or was stealing mums when she went out.
Speaker C:It'd be like.
Speaker A:Did you have blue mascara?
Speaker A:Electric blue mascara?
Speaker B:Yeah, but that was really in, in the 80s and also the eyeliner that went in the little eye.
Speaker B:So we did all that.
Speaker C:Your eyes look like little tiny little holes, didn't it?
Speaker A:Yes, it did.
Speaker B:So I've made all of those mistakes.
Speaker B:I've worn the purple and the blue and every color that didn't work.
Speaker B:I've had the pale pink and the orange lipstick that didn't work with my skin tone.
Speaker B:I've done, I've made all those mistakes.
Speaker C:I think we all have to be.
Speaker A:Fair, very much so.
Speaker A:I've got to say on this point I really feel sorry for men because if we're not having a great day and like you say, get your, get your lippy on.
Speaker A:My grand used to put your tutty on, get your tutti on.
Speaker A:Get yourself, get, you know, get, get yourself, get yourself together, get your tutti on and get out there.
Speaker C:And that's what we all do that though.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:You wake up and you probably think, oh God, right.
Speaker C:You go in the bathroom 10 minutes later, you've not put loads on.
Speaker C:Yeah, well that bit of mascara, a bit of blusher.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Lips, the lipstick.
Speaker B:Ring of confidence.
Speaker B:But men can just grow a beard.
Speaker A:Yeah, they can actually.
Speaker C:Quite envious of men.
Speaker A:Well, you know I think they just don't have as much maintenance as us.
Speaker A:They don't spend.
Speaker B:But would you give up like Pam Anderson has?
Speaker B:Would you give up your makeup at a certain age to go au natural?
Speaker A:I admire her.
Speaker C:I admire her confidence to do that.
Speaker A:Particularly on the red carpet.
Speaker C:That takes a lot of confidence to do that.
Speaker C:She must be so happy with herself.
Speaker B:I'm more of a Cher woman.
Speaker B:I feel like Cher.
Speaker B:All that.
Speaker C:All is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Better, not less is more.
Speaker A:More is how you feel, isn't it?
Speaker A:Like we've said there, you know, if I'm going out, a part of my ritual is I'll put my makeup on.
Speaker A:It's like, you know, I'm like Superman after he spun round in the.
Speaker A:And tonight, I like, that was me.
Speaker B:But I think Pam Anderson, a bit like Brigitte Bardot.
Speaker B:Maybe it was because they were only ever seen as the sex off check.
Speaker B:So they've said, right, I'm going to reinvent myself.
Speaker B:This is the real me.
Speaker B:I want you to see me as this.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So this is a statement.
Speaker B:I don't need to make a statement.
Speaker B:I'm not Pam Addison.
Speaker B:I'm not Brigitte Bardot, and everybody knows that.
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker B:So I'm trying my hard not.
Speaker B:I was born with those looks, but so, so I wouldn't be doing that.
Speaker B:I, I, I will not be stopping Wormy.
Speaker C:No, neither will I. I was gonna say so.
Speaker A:So we admire Pam and Bridgette and all of that, but, but we.
Speaker C:It's a personal choice that, isn't it?
Speaker A:It is, very much so.
Speaker A:And I think there's a lot to be said.
Speaker A:Like you said, is it armor?
Speaker A:You know, I think in all aspects of our life, male and female, whatever it is we're doing, we put our.
Speaker C:Uniform, we say we're putting our face on.
Speaker A:We get our face on.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:We're not happy with that face as it looks like when we look in the mirror first thing in the morning, are we?
Speaker A:No, but I think it, you know, I don't know whether it's that you're unhappy with it.
Speaker A:Julie as well.
Speaker A:I think it signifies something.
Speaker A:I think it is like your armor.
Speaker A:I think you go, right, today I am going to work and I'm going to be this person.
Speaker A:And, you know, in my clinic, I wear certain clothes.
Speaker A:In the clinic, it's good because you don't have to think about it.
Speaker A:You know, if you look at people like, like Mark Zuckerberg and Steve Jobs, maybe the male equivalent to makeup was a car, is them wearing those Clothes, though.
Speaker A:They used to wear the same clothes that we did.
Speaker C:Yeah, that was their uniform.
Speaker A:That was their tutti.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, I have got friends who actually don't really suit makeup.
Speaker B:They've got certain sky.
Speaker B:They've got very good sort of defined sort of skin.
Speaker B:I don't know, you know, features, bones, jaws, whatever.
Speaker B:And they don't actually wear makeup that well.
Speaker B:It's quite interesting.
Speaker B:Some, you know, so.
Speaker B:So say don't.
Speaker B:So I would say it's an enhancer, isn't it?
Speaker B:So if it enhances you, it.
Speaker B:To me, that's what it's saying.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker C:I like that.
Speaker A:An enhancer.
Speaker A:I always do laugh when I hear a woman who.
Speaker A:And I am not being unkind here, but some women suit no makeup, like you just said.
Speaker A:There was some.
Speaker A:A lot of women do suit it.
Speaker A:And when the women say that their husband say they look better without makeup, now my fill will tell me I look beautiful without makeup, but when I've got some makeup on, I'm done up.
Speaker A:I blow his mind.
Speaker B:I will say to you, beware the boyfriend who says you look better without makeup.
Speaker B:That is to make sure that you're attractive to them and nobody else.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:I feel it's quite controlling.
Speaker C:That's a hidden compliment.
Speaker C:That's not.
Speaker C:That's not.
Speaker C:That's a red flag.
Speaker C:That's a red flag, isn't it?
Speaker C:Yeah, Red flags.
Speaker A:Red flags.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Red flags will be coming up soon.
Speaker A:In our other episode.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:I remember distinctly that bringing a relationship to an end when somebody said that to me, because I thought, oh, our dynamics is changing here from how he knew me, how we met, you know, both of us.
Speaker B:You know, I always had makeup on, dressing up this.
Speaker B:Oh, you don't need to wear that even in clothes.
Speaker B:Or, oh, you're looking great in jogging bottoms and a T shirt.
Speaker B:And I thought, uh, oh, this.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Don't need makeup.
Speaker B:I'm thinking I do.
Speaker A:That's fast becoming one of my favorite emojis, actually, the red flag.
Speaker A:I'll just say some of the circles I move in, y.
Speaker A:It's like, red flag.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And that's definitely a red flag.
Speaker C:Anybody that says you, you look better without it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Seriously, it looks the same face as I am.
Speaker A:So I think we all agree makeup is a fantastic thing.
Speaker A:We admire Pam et al, but for us, give me my lippy, give me my mascara and a bit of blusher, and I'm happy.
Speaker C:Totally.
Speaker C:And if I forgot it when I went on holiday, it would actually probably ruin my holiday.
Speaker C:That'd be scouring the chemist for any sort of stuff.
Speaker B:That's when you get your strawberries, red berries.
Speaker B:Oh, give me a bit of blush on my cheeks.
Speaker B:And if I suck them here, I'll get some of my lipstick on there.
Speaker B:That's what you used to do when you were about 6 as a kid, wasn't it?
Speaker A:Bit rouge.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:Thank you, ladies.
Speaker A:That's amazing, Sam.
